The following is a link to an article by Robert Novak.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/02/torts_and_terrorism.html
I'm going to write about his opinion when I get the chance. I just thought I would toss this out there now for anyone that wants to read it. The general idea is this...
Novak believes fund raising is why Democrats in the House did not approve the new FISA bill. He believes the funds from tort lawyers wanting to sue telecom companies is why the Dems walked out on the bill before voting on it.
Here is a different view. Laws were broken and Dems in the House don't think telecoms should be given immunity. If Bush wanted FISA passed so badly, he would have removed the immunity clause, but he didn't. Apparently immunity for the telecoms is more important than national security.
There are other issues here...like setting a precedent for other companies to follow when pressured by the government and the situations where this precedent could be good or bad....lots of fun stuff to think about.
More to come later....
Ok, going to go about this is an odd way...going to post my random thoughts as I poke around the net.
Claire McCaskill is a great Senator. Way to go MO. Not only does she not take earmarks, she isn't afraid to vote her conscious. She was also first in line to support Obama. Her reward was walking into the state of of union address on Obama's coattails. Way off topic. Back on topic, Claire McCaskill's independence does help Novak's argument. She was on Bill Maher the other night and was also very good there.
Novak's fixation on Kucinich is annoying. Yeah, he is a little off, but he has a hot wife, lol. Badmouthing Kucinich does not help Novak.
I still don't see why immunity had to be in the bill? Maybe because Bush knew he needed FISA to get immunity for his friends. This looks like Bush playing politics with our national security. The dems may be dirty on this, but the only thing Bush has left to live on is national security.
Dirty or not, the Dems in the House have needed to call Bush's bluff on this. Bush has been pushing them around for 6 straight years....they needed to do this.
In the vote to strip immunity, Obama voted yes and Clinton didn't vote....interesting.
I find it hypocrital for Reps to complain about the "rule of law" in regards to immigration, but are ok with with giving immunity to telecoms.
On the way to
passage, the Senate rejected by a vote of 67-31 a move to strip away a
grant of retroactive legal immunity for the companies. It also rejected
two amendments that sought to water down the immunity provision.
One
of the amendments, co-sponsored by Republican Arlen Specter of
Pennsylvania and Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island, would
have substituted the government for the telecom companies in lawsuits,
allowing the court cases to go forward but shifting the cost and burden
of defending the program.
The
other, pushed by California Democrat Dianne Feinstein, would have given
a secret court that oversees government surveillance inside the United
States the power to dismiss lawsuits if it found that the companies
acted in good faith and on the request of the president or attorney
general.
Does anyone else have a problem reading the dailykos. Someone needs to organize that site.
The following is a nice read about FISA and the 4th...
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-napolitano18feb18,0,1665050.story
The following link is on the constitutionality of retroactive immunity
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/sebok/20080129.html
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